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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world are convening for the peace-keeping...
and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon. I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
- We are Junyoosung! - We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
- It's a country that we are fond of. - Yes.
Turkey. We are like blood brothers.
They are a country that possesses the charms of both East and West.
They also have a very unique name.
Se-yoon, you are very good at impersonating this sentient being.
If they could speak, I think they would speak like this.
"Alpha-Go".
"This is the headquarters of Google."
It's an old robot.
That's his real name. He's the representative of Turkey, his name is Alpago.
Welcome.
(Representative from Turkey, Alpago)
Could you introduce yourself?
(Hello, my name is Alpago Sinasi.)
(I'm from Turkey and I am working as a journalist.)
Hello, my name is Alpago Sinasi. I'm from Turkey.
After working as a correspondent, I'm actively working as a journalist.
You're talking like AlphaGo.
(You're speaking like AlphaGo.)
Our country was in a frenzy during the matches with AlphaGo.
I was attacked online.
- Really? - Yes.
All my friends on Facebook tagged me in the same news article.
They wrote, "I didn't know Alpago would be good at Go."
It was the same joke.
I'm curious about this.
Near my hometown,
we have a beautiful village called Alpago.
It is a city and country that I really want to visit.
- Did you already know about this? - Did your parents...
have you during their trip to Italy?
You were named Alpago. It was the same for Kobe Bryant.
Really?
His parents were on a trip to Japan.
- And they were in a city called Kobe. - I see. Kobe.
- That's how he got his name? - His name comes from the city in Japan.
That's why I thought it was the same for him.
Okay. Try your best today.
Alpago, you must've...
- had concerns in Korea because you kept on getting attacked on social media. - Yes.
It was the same for the President-elect Donald Trump,
they say he had issues before his term began.
You all know about the apartment complex with his names on it.
The residents said they felt too embarrassed to live there.
They applied to get the apartment's name changed.
Mark, you've heard about the residents applying for this, right?
Yes. This happened in Manhattan...
when the residents of the apartment complex,
Trump Place...
felt embarrassed about living in a building with that name on it.
When he was a candidate, around 600 people signed a petition to change the name.
The company allowed this, so they took down the name.
So, from now on the apartment complex is just called Riverside Boulevard.
- I see. - They took the name off.
It was a successful petition.
The US isn't the only country that is suffering humiliation due to a name,
- it also happened in Korea. - What are you trying to say?
- Why? Am I not allowed to say it? - No, you can.
In Korea, the name Gil Ra-im became an issue.
The name comes from a drama from five years ago.
Our president used this name as her fake name and it has become controversial.
Gil Ra-im became a controversial name.
They seem to be playing the sound track from the drama a lot in the news these days.
I had also taken part in the drama, but they don't seem to play my music.
They only seem to play Baek Z Young's song.
(We'll take a moment to listen to it.)
(What do you think?)
(The sound track from the drama, "Secret Garden", "You are my spring".)
Has there ever been a controversy...
caused by a famous person using a fake name in your country?
Unsurprisingly, during the election,
during the last 20 years Donald Trump...
had used other names so it became a controversy.
When there was an article written about him,
he would call up the journalist and say his name was Barron or Miller.
"I'm a new employee at Trump's company,"
- "I'm a spokesperson for Trump." - Does he have a lot of free time?
- He is working hard. - "I'm a spokesperson."
"I read the article and this part was wrong."
Or he'd say, "We would like you to write it this way."
He's been doing this for 20 years.
- He did that for 20 years? - How did they find out it was him?
He has a unique voice.
He has an easily identifiable voice.
It's a voice that anyone could instantly recognize.
(Trump admits to using aliases after denying it.)
There was an incident that became an issue due to someone using an alias in Turkey.
There is a foundation that was created under the President's wife and son's name.
- This foundation... - Foundation?
has similarities to the Mir and K-Sports foundations in Korea.
This foundation also receives a lot of financial donations from corporations.
These corporations in Turkey...
are all construction companies that make bridges, roads or airports.
But they had donated a huge amount of money to the foundation.
This became pretty controversial and the issue was raised but that was it.
It didn't end up with the citizens protesting about it.
- When did this happen? - It happened recently.
It's still happening now. The foundation is still receiving donations.
That is indeed a ridiculous event.
"That is indeed an unusual case."
(It is an unusual case that normally doesn't happen.)
In France, when President Sarkozy...
talks with his lawyer...
to avoid the police,
they used a phone that was under someone else's name.
To buy that phone,
he used the alias Paul Bismuth, when he purchased the phone.
It's very interesting that all those incidents you mentioned...
sound pretty familiar to me.
Using a phone under someone else's name.
This wasn't a controversy, but...
my senior Kim Jong-un...
- He's his senior. He can't deny the fact. - I mean...
Whether he likes him or not.
- Anyway, while he lived in Switzerland, - Yes?
to make sure no one knew that he was the son of Kim Jong-il,
- he used the name Park Un. - Park Un.
- Park Un. -Park Un.
I'm sure everyone knew.
He just stands out.
Could you inform us on the issues of North Korea as well as Switzerland?
(News of Switzerland and North Korea)
In India, once you could tell a person's caste through their surname.
The people from the lowest caste were called Sudra.
They normally had the surname, Kumhar.
The merchants and farmers had the surname Gupta.
People from the Vaishya caste usually had the surname, Gupta.
The soldiers and policemen...
were from the Kshatriya caste and most of them had the surname Rajput.
The highest caste was Brahmin.
Their surname was Sharma.
They gave surnames according to your hereditary class.
The people from the lower classes wanted to hide their caste class...
so they didn't use their surname.
But we no longer have this cultural system in India,
and our last president was from the lowest class.
India has changed from being a caste class.
Okay.
I didn't know about this, but the longest Korean name is...
Parkchagonaonnomisaemina.
I don't know what the name means.
I think it would be fun if we could talk about names...
that became an issue for their uniqueness.
This is a story from back in the 90s...
but the parents had given their child the name, Demon.
- Demon? To a child? - Yes.
They tried to name their child that and they got caught and it became a controversy.
- Why would they do that? - The parents thought...
- that their child would get a lot more attention. - Of course.
They thought that this could be advantageous for the child.
- That's why they came up with that name. - Was it something like Cute Demon?
- Or was it just Demon? - It was just Demon. They put that on the birth certificate.
They put that on the birth certificate...
but that now not accepted because it's not a name for a person.
How could they call their child, Demon?
The parents must have really wanted to call their child that,
- they even took legal action. - Did they?
Yes, the court's decision was that the parents...
were abusing their right to name their child.
In the end, they named the named the child, A-ku.
- A-ku. - A-ku.
- The parents are stubborn. - They changed one letter in the word.
- A-ku. - They named the child A-ku.
This happened in France back in 2014,
when a couple named their child Nutella.
- Nutella? - I guess the parent wanted to give the child a sweet name.
Isn't that similar to Demon?
- It's the demon's jam. - Right.
(The demon's curse?)
Won't the child get too fat?
This happened in the last year in Mexico.
The parents of a child...
wanted to celebrate how they had met each other through the portal site, Yahoo.
- So, they named the child, Yahoo. - Yahoo?
- They tried to name the child that. - They tried to.
The government convinced them not to do that,
so in the end they didn't name the child that.
In our country, you've heard of Alexander the Great, right?
In Turkish his name is Iskender.
And Ghengis Khan.
In Turkey, these two names are quite common.
But the problem is,
these two people had invaded Turkey,
and conquered and pillaged the country.
But even with that being the case,
Turkish people say, "No, they were brilliant soldiers."
In a way, it's like naming Korean children, Ito.
- Ito Hirobumi? - Yes. It's similar to that.
- It's like naming your child, Kang I-to. - You could see it like that.
That's a different view point.
(Flustered)
Oogi looks uncomfortable again.
- He's feeling uncomfortable. - Right.
A lot of people who got teased because of their names given by...
their parents are recently changing their names,
before they apply for a job, get married or take a test.
I'm sure each country has a different process to help change names.
If you think the process should be easier, please raise your hand.
If you think it should be more difficult, please don't raise your hand.
If you think it should be easier, raise your hand. In 1, 2 and 3.
It should be easier.
- The parents gave them their names. - That's clear.
Isn't this obvious?
I think it the process needs to be made easier because...
if the person has a horrid name,
than that person probably doesn't want to live with that name.
As long as there is a system that doesn't allow for abuse, I think it would be okay.
For example, you can't change it constantly.
As long as this system is in place, I think it should be okay.
But under the law, all sorts of problems occur because of this.
Like when they sign a contract.
Or in the case of criminals,
if we make it too easy, criminals could take advantage of this system.
I believe that you'll need a separate system for criminals.
Ordinary citizens would be impacted because of the criminals, right?
As he already mentioned, the person could be shunned by his peers,
or the person could be suffering because of the name.
I think it's unfair to make the system more difficult because of the criminals.
What if somebody committed a crime...
but hasn't been caught yet? What will you do then?
I was really surprised to see that it's so easy to change your name in Korea.
In Italy, unless you have a really good reason, you can't change your name.
- But... - The judge has to decide that there's a good reason to change your name.
- You have to take it to the court. - Like Mark said,
there's an issue regarding contract. When companies make a contract,
they have to find information about certain people, but they won't be able to.
Also, there's an issue regarding online personal information.
Everything is recorded these days, right?
If people change their names, it will be confusing.
You wouldn't be able to tell who is who.
- The criminals... - You can get a plastic surgery easily.
The criminals can also change their appearance easily.
- Changing their names... - So they can change their face and name easily.
They can change everything.
When a bad incident happens, they name the incident.
For example, people might call it the "Guillaume incident".
Then people whose names are Guillaume might want to change their name.
- It could be a suicide incident. - Yes.
To be honest,
everything that people know about you could be your name.
If you change your name, all the information about you could disappear.
Especially in China,
you can't change your name on your academic degrees.
- Really? - Even if I change my name,
I can't change the name on my academic degrees.
So it can be very troublesome when you look for a job.
The person who changed his name would face many difficulties.
The fact that he changed his name may arouse suspicion as well.
People might think, "Did he do something wrong or swindle someone?"
"Why did he change his name?"
People can misunderstand.
You're all saying people shouldn't change their names because of these reasons.
I agree with Christian.
No matter what your name is,
your name is given by your parents.
People tend to hate their names...
during their school years.
Some people's names sound like swear words, and kids make fun of you.
So I thought people should be given only one chance to change their names.
There should be only once chance.
There is another issue though.
I understand that people in China, Japan and Korea change their names.
- Because each Chinese character has its own meaning. - Right.
But I don't understand why people have to change their names in Western countries.
The name Alberto...
- doesn't have a specific meaning. - That's right.
You don't have to change your name.
- All right. - Traditionally, Chinese people think...
one's name decides that person's fate.
- I see. - Even the famous actor...
- Jackie Chan's real name was Chan Kong-sang. - Really?
- Chan Kong-sang? - He changed his name and became successful.
Some say you will die if you don't change your name.
They even say something really bad will happen to you.
It makes people worry.
- You shouldn't believe that. - Someone told me this.
A fortune teller told me that...
because of the letter "Lin" of my name,
- I will have problems in my legs later. - My goodness.
- Are your legs all right? - Are you okay?
I do have problems in my legs.
- Really? - Why?
- Really? - It's just your imagination.
What's wrong with your legs?
My legs started to get sore when the weather was cold.
So I went to see a doctor. He said it's rheumatoid...
- Rheumatoid arthritis? - I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis.
- Really? - Yes, I've been treated with acupuncture for a year and got better.
Is that right?
- The fortune teller was right. - See?
- You have to believe it. - It's quite scary.
In Mexico, many parents name their babies with strange words.
So the government published a list of 61 names...
that it determined were inappropriate and illegal.
- Some of the names are Batman, - Batman?
- Burger King, - Burger King?
- Circumcision, - Circumcision?
Harry Potter, James Bond,
RoboCop, Pocahontas...
- So these names were banned. - That's right.
They must have thought someone might name their child "Circumcision".
I'm sure someone did.
Isn't this really upsetting?
- I'm Jun Circumcision. - People gave their children these names.
That's why these names are legally banned.
In Switzerland, the laws regarding naming your child...
are quite strict.
You can't give a girl's name to a boy.
- Are there names for boys and names for girls in Switzerland? - Alice?
- Yes, you can't name your baby boy "Sophia". - Sophia.
Alex, the name "Sophia" suits you very well. Sophia.
(Sophia)
You can't name your baby with brand names like "Nutella".
Also, you can't give names of the villains in the Bible.
- "Judas" is an example. - Yes.
You can't name your child with place names, either.
Was he David Beckham's son?
- Brooklyn. - Yes.
That kind of name is prohibited.
Speaking of the Bible,
there's a huge naming culture difference...
between Mexico and the US.
A lot of Mexican immigrants come to the States, right?
When I was a student, many of my classmates who came from Mexico...
had the name Jesus.
- It's the name Jesus. - Jesus.
- In America, you can't name your child Jesus. - Right.
So I was really shocked. Even the spelling is the same.
I had to say, "Hey, Jesus."
I was really shocked. It's quite normal in Mexico, isn't it?
- Yes. - It's weird for us.
- There are many Catholics in Mexico. - Do many people have that name?
Yes, it's one of the common names in Mexico.
- I see. - During 1970s in South Korea,
"Jung-Hun" for boys...
- and "Eun-ju" for girls were the popular names. - Right.
- Many people had the name "Lee Jung-Hun". - Yes.
- Kim Eun-ju. - Kim Jung-Hun.
In the 2010s, "Min-jun" and "Ji-yeon" were the popular names.
Let's find out about the popular names in each country.
For many years,
"Ben" and "Mia" have been the most popular names in Germany.
Those names have been really popular for many years.
Alex, why are you surprised?
In Switzerland, the most popular girl's name in 2015...
was "Mia" as well.
- I see. - For boys, "Noah" was the most popular name.
- Noah. - It's the same in the States.
- Noah? - Yes.
In the States, "Noah" and "Mason" are really popular names these days.
That's because so many people have names like "Mark" or "Chris".
People love the sound of these names.
- You can feel a sense of gravitas from the names like "Noah" and "Mason". - I see.
For girls, "Olivia" and "Emma" are popular names,
- which are less common in the States. - Emma?
Mexicans think about the meaning of the name when they name their babies.
"Sophia" is a popular name for girls because...
it means a person who's intelligent.
For boys, "Santiago" is a popular name.
That's the most popular one. It means...
a person who changes things himself.
It seems like the names that start with "S" are popular these days.
Right. I'm Sung Si-kyung.
Exactly.
The letter "Yu", which means being "Great", is the most popular letter in China.
Names like Wang Yu, Li Yu, Zhang Yu...
are really popular.
Also, the names of the protagonist in novels are popular.
Names like Zhi Xuan, Zhi Han...
sound like you're from a rich family.
Do those names sound rich?
It gives you the impression that you're well-educated...
and use Chinese characters that ordinary people don't use.
I see.
- I'm curious about Japan. - As of last year,
- "Yuma" was the most popular boy's name. - Yuma.
For girls, "Aoi" was the most popular name.
- Aoi is also very popular in Korea. - Does that name mean green?
Actually, Aoi is the name of a plant.
It's the name of a flower.
For girls, names of flowers are popular.
Those names sound beautiful and pretty.
Those types of names are popular for girls in Japan.
Aoi.
Do any of you want to change your name?
- I do. - Xinlin.
I want to change my name.
I already have a name in mind.
It's Park Min-sung.
- Park Min-sung? - Yes.
The surname "Park" is pronounced as "Piao", which sounds really nice.
"Min" means quick, and "Sung" means a success.
So it means you react quickly and become successful.
React quickly and become successful?
- It means you will become successful quickly. - Say the name in Chinese.
- Piao Min-Cheng. - Piao Min-Cheng?
- Piao Min-Cheng. - Park Min-sung.
Among my friends who are the same age as me,
there more than 10 guys who have the name "Niklas".
There are more than 10 guys. That name is really popular in my country.
I'm sort of tired of hearing it.
So I don't really like my name.
There's a name I want to have.
- It's Dante, which is quite rare. - Dante.
- Yes, it's Dante. - Dante?
I love the sound of the name.
It's also very uncommon.
- It suits you. - I like the name.
- How about Hegel? - What?
- Hegel? - Are you talking about dialectic?
You know my name is...
My name is Guillaume. People might think it's a cute name,
but it's a really cool name actually.
The name Guillaume is pronounced as William in English.
It was the name of a famous king.
So I want to change my name to William King.
- William King? - It's...
- Don't change your name. - The name doesn't suit you.
How about Kerllaume?
- Kerllaume? - We shouldn't let people change their names easily.
It's a bit embarrassing to say this,
but there's a name I used to use when I was in college.
- The name you used when you were in college? - Yes, it's Mark.
Yes!
- Mark? - Why?
My brother told me...
that students who go to American college have their English names.
- I see. - He said that I should have an English name, too.
That was when I watched "The Social Network".
- The movie was about Mark Zuckerberg. - Right.
I thought he was really cool. So I used the name Mark.
Don't people pronounce it as "Maku" in Japan?
Mark.
Did people call you Mark?
Everyone called me Mark. My college friends call me Mark.
- Really? - Do you realize the name doesn't suit you at all?
- It suits him. - Do you think so?
- The name Hitoshi suits him. - It suits him.
It's fascinating that people think...
certain names suit you because of the image you have.
One Japanese guy said that "Sato" really suited me.
- Look, he's laughing. It must really suit Hyun-moo. - Right.
- He said I could be a Sato. - He approved it.
- I'm Sato-San. - It's perfect for you.
- My goodness. - All the Japanese guys say this.
- What comes to your mind when you hear the name? - What kind of image does it have?
- Sato would be... - Yes.
- Look at him. - His eyes got all red.
- What is it? - I've never seen him laughing that hard.
Sato would look not too strong.
- Yes. - He might look a little bland.
- Sato looks bland? - A little bit.
- He looks shallow? - I don't know why.
- You don't know why? - I don't know why, but "Sato" really suits you.
Sato-San.
- All the Japanese people say that to me. They say I should be called Sato. - I see.
I have no idea why they keep saying that.
We have no idea either. It just feels right.
- Does it? - Yes, it just feels right.
- I see. - I see.
This is the 126th Non Summit Meeting.
We will now begin our discussion.
(Today's discussion starts now.)
- Let's invite global representatives to the show. - Yes.
As Girls' Generation and Kim Yu-Na become grown-ups, these girls...
- are rising as a new sweetheart of Korea . - Yes.
- Very very very very very very very - Gosh.
Very very very very very
We missed them very much. They're Jeon So-mi and Zhou Jieqiong of I.O.I.
Come on.
(The 126th global representatives are Jeon So-mi and Zhou Jieqiong.)
- Hello. - Hello.
Welcome.
(They were selected among 101 girls.)
(Cheerful girls, Jeon So-mi and Zhou Jieqiong of I.O.I)
We have the Korean representative Jeon So-mi...
- and the Chinese representative Zhou Jeiqioing. - Yes.
Please introduce yourself in your own language.
Hello. I'm So-mi of I.O.I.
Nice to meet you.
(Hello. I'm Zhou Jeiqioing from China.)
Hello. I'm Zhou Jeiqioing of I.O.I.
- Yes. - Nice to meet you.
So-mi, what is your nationality?
- I have Korea, Canadian, and Netherlands nationalities. - I see.
You haven't decided yet, right?
- No, because of my age. - I see.
- You said you have Netherlands nationality. - Yes.
Do you speak Dutch?
I only know one sentence.
- It means "How much is it?" - Yes.
- I learned it on a plane. - I see.
I was on a bicycle.
I was going down on a slope, and I saw an old man holding a dog.
I should have said "Watch out", but I shouted "How much is it?" at him.
"I'll tell you how much this dog is."
(I don't want to sell him, but I'll tell you.)
- "I don't want to sell him, but..." - Right.
Jeiqioing is really good at Korean.
So-mi, I heard that you heard her Korean...
and thought she's half-Korean now. Is that right?
She uses very difficult words.
- For example? - Yes.
- She says, "I am between sleep and wakefulness." - Wow.
- That's a difficult phrase. - Yes.
What did you say then? Did you say "decadent"?
- I don't know. - She said "decadent"?
- You mean "dazzling"? - Yes, she uses these words.
- She said "dazzling"? - She did?
We all died our hair, and she said on an interview,
- "We died our hair all in dazzling colors." - Wow.
- I was really surprised at her Korean. - I see.
Do you have any tips for Chinese or foreign people who study Korean?
- I talk a lot, and I'm curious about many things. - Right.
- I keep asking, "What is this?" - Yes, it bothers us.
I think that's why I got good at Korean.
- Your pronunciation is really good. - Right.
- She sounds so natural. - Yes.
I see.
They are all shocked.
I'm curious about the topic they brought today.
- Let's hear their topic for the 126th Non Summit Meeting. - Yes.
We went through a brutal survival audition...
and made a debut, which had been our dream.
So we brought this topic today.
"I want to be on another audition show. Am I abnormal?"
Do you want to be back on an audition?
I had no idea when I applied for the audition show.
Looking back, I think, "Why did I do that at that time?"
- It comes back to me very often. - I see.
"I should have taken the first place in the competition. Why did So-mi win?"
- No, it's not that. - "If I had won, I would have been sitting there."
- "But So-mi is sitting there." - Right.
- I see. - I have lots of regrets...
- so I want to do it again. - Yes.
What about you, So-mi?
I don't want to do it again.
You already won the show.
- It's so hard. - I've been on two audition shows.
- I failed on the show for deciding members for TWICE. - I see.
- And then... - Don't cry.
I'm not crying.
- I was on "Produce 101". - Yes.
- I think I'll get sick if I go for a third audition show. - I see.
I think the representatives here would have different opinions.
Shall we vote on this topic?
There is an audition show with a huge prize in an area I'm confident of.
- But your whole privacy must be disclosed. - Yes.
- A lot of Korean audition shows films private life of the contestants. - Right.
- Yes. - Right.
When you wake up in the morning, a camera is filming you.
- He's right. - Would you be on the audition show or not?
How high should we set the prize?
- This is important. - We should set it at 100,000 dollars at least.
- We'll set the prize at one million dollars. - My goodness.
The prize is one million dollars.
If you want to be on the show, please press the button.
One, two, three. Press the button.
Why aren't you pressing? We set the prize so high.
You said you were done with it.
- You just wanted higher prize? - No, it's not that.
It's unbelievable. You pressed the button right away.
- How about 500,000 dollars? - Yes.
- I just... - She will press it.
(Are you on the fence with 500,000 dollars?)
- I think I could do it if the show is about what I'm confident of. - I see.
- What are you confident of? - Is it acting?
If it's not for singing or dancing auditions,
- my private life has already been disclosed pretty much. - Yes.
So I don't mind disclosing it again.
I see.
I don't have no skeleton in my closet.
- I have no reason not to disclose my life. - You have nothing to fear?
Yes. My private life is pretty simple, so there's no problem with disclosing it.
- Doesn't his phrase sounds more natural than Jieqiong's? - Right.
I think Xinlin's phrase was better.
- And I also don't have... - He has no girlfriend.
His parents are in China. What private life he has to disclose?
I will be grateful if I could make a lot of money.
- If Chinese people would pay to watch my private life, it would be nice. - Yes.
A person's private life is an important thing.
- Yes. - So I don't want to disclose it.
- Wait a minute. - And I...
- He's lying. - I'm not done talking yet.
- What about... - If I made money by disclosing all my privacy,
- I don't think I could easily spend that money. - You do?
It would be also hard to make friends out of such industry later.
- I agree to him. - Yes.
You don't have to show all parts of your life.
- No, you don't. - The parts you really shouldn't disclose will be not on the show.
- I see. - You can ask them to take it out.
- I understand. - It would be all right.
The things like how I look when I just woke up matters more to me.
Rather than bad things I might have done,
there are things that I'd rather not disclose to other people.
- I don't know why I should. - You were on "Where Is My Friend's Home?".
- That is... - He already showed it.
- He already showed it all. - Alberto, you did a good job.
- He's right. - You showed it already.
- You already showed your house, too. - He did.
- Right. - It was very uncomfortable.
- To be frank, - I see.
it was quite uncomfortable to share a bed with Se-yoon.
(It was quite uncomfortable.)
- It's hard to say this now, but... - Yes.
- I slept on the completely opposite side of the bed. - You did?
I got as far as I could.
- I think I remember that. - Right.
(Se-yoon looks so comfortable.)
"Are you sleeping?"
(It was uncomfortable for Mark.)
Actually, I don't have anything that I'm confident of...
to the extent I could win a competition.
- So I don't want to... - Why?
- The prize is one billion? - Yes.
- It's one billion. - It is.
- It's not enough? - I don't know.
- But I think I won't do it. I need to protect my privacy. - Yes.
We went for a meal after the shooting.
- Yes. - Aurélien had a lot of luggage.
So he said he would drop it at his house.
- I went with him because I wanted to take a look at his place. - Yes.
- But he said, "Wait here." - Wow.
- It's like saying "Stay." - "Sit there."
- "Sit." - "Behave. Otherwise I'll shoot a gun."
- What's that? - "Give me your paw."
- I'd only be on the show if I'm sure I could win. - I see.
- You don't want risk your privacy? - It doesn't matter...
- You're right. It doesn't matter the prize is high or low. - I see.
- I think whether I'm confident or not is what really matters. - Yes.
I have a similar experience.
I participated in a speech contest when I was young.
I was really sure that I could do this well.
I was the top of the school,
- I see. - and then took the first place in the town.
- And finally I won the national contest. - What?
- Wow. - I won the national contest.
- You did? - You were the best in Mexico?
- You won the national contest? - Yes. If you're really confident, you could try it.
Do you remember the topic of your speech?
I don't remember it well. It's like what they do in Korea, "I will do my best!"
- How did you say it in Spanish? - "I claim this strongly!"
(I will do my best!)
- Something like that. - Wow.
That's amazing.
(Raise your voice and shout.)
(I claim this strongly in front of everyone here.)
I thought Oogi would not go for it.
- I look like a "herbivore man", right? - Yes.
But I'm actually a "dumpling guy".
- What is that? - What does that mean?
I coined this word.
- It means... - Gosh.
- a guy who might look timid on the outside,
- Yes. - but has a really hot passion inside.
(Dumpling guys have a passion inside them.)
- Why did you coin it? - Oh no.
- He's a dumpling guy. - You're like xiaolongbao.
- I just wanted to coin a word. - I see.
- He has a hot soup inside of him. - Right.
- I want to success, so it's okay with me to disclose my privacy. - I see.
If you have a Korean girlfriend, would you show her on television?
I would. But I'd have to ask her.
- You'd have to ask her first. - Yes.
- It's okay for me. - If she says she doesn't want it, what would you do?
I would try to persuade her.
- My goodness. - He has a real passion.
He's a dumpling guy.
- He's got desires. - I can make it up for her after I succeed.
- I see. - I would do anything except for virtual relationship shows.
- My goodness. - It's not what you think.
I've been familiar with competitions since I was a kid, so I would do it.
It would be good if I could give hope to others.
You could be on "The Genius".
They asked me to be on the first season season.
- I see. - I didn't do TV shows at that time, so I said no.
After I saw Hong Jin-ho did well there, I decided to do this show.
- You did? - I see.
- I really did. - You decided that after you saw Hong Jin-ho on "The Genius?"
Yes, because I didn't think appearing in a television show...
- would help me that much. - Right. I didn't know it either.
Were you not sure it would help your career?
- You don't regret being on our show? - I don't. I'm having fun.
- Thank you. - He's learned a lot.
Today we are going to be talking about survival programs.
You all have audition and survival programs in your country, right?
Yes, in Japan we had something very similar to "Produce 101".
We have a girl group called AKB48. The election system for this group is intense.
AKB48 is an idol group.
They have their own theater and they have a concert every day.
They are the nation's most representative idol group.
They started off in the Akihabara area and spread out to the whole nation.
With the name AKB48,
they currently have 127 members.
- It's an incredible number. - There are no fixed members, right?
Whenever they release a single,
there are too many members so they have an election.
They select the top 16 members...
and they are the ones who get to sing in the single album.
You have to buy the CDs to be able to vote.
Each CD allows you to cast one vote.
So, the really obsessive fans buy an incredible number of CDs.
It's a marketing strategy.
So because of this, they get criticized as well.
"The Voice" is a US program, right?
It originated from the Netherlands.
- It started in the Netherlands. - I see.
- The Netherlands. - Yes.
I thought it was an American idea as well, but when I researched it,
- I found out that "American Idol" had also originated from the UK. - Really?
But we can claim that this genre was created in the US because...
in 1983, there was a program called "Star Search".
Many famous people today auditioned on that show.
Christina Aguilera came on the show.
(Christina Aguilera came on the program in 1990. She was 8 years old.)
(Britney Spears was also on it.)
(Britney Spears came on the show in 1992. She was 10 years old.)
Justin Timberlake.
(The 11-year-old, Justin Timberlake came on the show in 1992)
Beyonce had also come on the show.
(The 12-year-old Beyonce came on in 1993)
Through that program, these people became famous.
They created this genre, that's why when these audition programs...
could become a success later on.
There was something similar in India as well.
In the film, "Slumdog Millionaire",
there was that quiz show, right?
"Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?"
("Slumdog Millionaire" is about the quiz show, "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire".)
(It won 8 Academy Awards in 2009.)
(This quiz show became the motif for that movie.)
(The answer is B.)
(That's correct.)
(She has won the prize money.)
This program changed the landscape of survival programs in India.
It changed it a lot.
In Mexico,
we have a program where a person can become rich if he makes someone laugh.
- That sounds fun. - What is the title in Spanish?
That's very direct.
What is the title in Mexico?
It first aired in 2009.
It's a survival show for comedians.
It's like "I Am a Singer" but for comedians.
In this program, the comedians do skits and parodies.
They do candid camera and also acting.
- The program has a very fun vibe. - It would be funny.
- That sounds fun. - It sounds really fun.
Does the winner actually become rich?
They do. The prize money is 280,000 dollars.
- It's 280,000 dollars. - Yes.
In China, there is a program that started in 2004 and...
there is a program that happened every year.
- "Super Girl". It's a very popular show. - Is it famous?
- Did it start in 2004? - Yes.
- I thought it was 2005. - You are so young.
(Smiling)
I watched it from 2005.
How are those two facts related?
- It's a program where they turn ordinary girls into singers. - That's right.
All the popular female singers in China all started out from here.
There were 500,000 participants this year.
Yes.
The Korean singer, Hwang Chi-yeul...
also came on this show as a judge.
Hwang Chi-yeul was a judge?
All of you did such a great job.
Your middle voices were very strong.
(A warm judge)
(Hwang Chi-yeul)
In Germany, we have a program called "The Jungle Camp".
On the program, instead of ordinary people...
we have celebrities who have lost their popularity...
go out there and do strange things.
They have to eat disgusting things like cockroaches.
Or they have to grab something from the drawers.
These celebrities who have lost their popularity,
have come on the show because they want gain back their popularity.
They do all sorts of things.
They fight and curse each other.
When they take a shower, they need to wear their swimwear, but they don't.
The show itself is a controversy.
Don't you have a similar program in the US?
"Fear Factor".
- It's disgusting. - They do disgusting things on the show.
"Fear Factor" is famous.
In Canada, we have a different concept.
It's a program where if you do well, you'll be let go and if you do badly you stay.
You get dropped if you do well?
It's called "Canada's Worst Driver".
The worst driver.
- I saw it. - I think I've seen it.
I saw my dad watching that.
They take 18 participants and get them to drive.
The worst driver gets picked.
This was aired on the Discovery Channel,
and it had the highest ratings for many years.
You could just pretend to be a bad driver.
Well, that's true.
- But the people who pretend to bad... - Get caught.
- You can't compete against someone who is really bad. - That's right.
Their true skills appear just when you least expected.
They really are bad when something happens.
You can't fake that.
In the program that I am in, if you are a bad singer, we give you 5,000 dollars.
Is that so?
There is a survival program that all Italian men love.
How this came about is,
this program first aired in 1988 and...
has continued to be the highest rated show.
It's called "Striscia La Notizia" and it's like a news program.
There are two MCs.
And there are two women who hand the news to the MCs.
We call these women, Veline.
They turned it into a survival show...
for women who want to be a Veline.
Women from all over the country participate.
They show various talents from...
singing to dancing.
The two winners from the contests make an appearance on the show.
So, these smart, pretty and charming women...
just hand the script to the MCs and that is it?
That seems harsh.
It's not that they just hand over the paper.
- They come dancing towards them on the table. - Really?
- Well, - He said it before, it's a program that men like.
It's actually very popular.
But the show does get criticized because...
it looks like a sexual objectification of women.
In the US, there is a Japanese program that people do like to watch.
- It's a battle between secretaries. - A battle between secretaries?
They test them on how they answer the phone in the office.
They see which of the two had the best manners,
- and answered with the nicer voice. - Is that a survival show?
Is that a survival show, Mark?
- The caller has to try and make them angry. - They have to be polite.
- You have a very weird sense of humor. - It's a competition.
(Episode 52, the phone test was done in 2013.)
(Try and guess who won out of these three participants.)
(Out of 12,613 participants, Kiyomi was the winner.)
In France, from 1998...
to 2005 we had a competition.
It was a spelling competition.
Was it a test to see how well they spelled words?
The finalists were filmed for TV.
- Oh my gosh. - Yes.
- They gave them hard words. - They tried it,
and they got the results.
If you won, did you get to work at the National Institute of the French Language?
(Gosh)
- You would never have to look at a dictionary again. - They wouldn't have to.
How do you feel as former participants of an audition program? What did you like?
- I think making people laugh would be funny. - Making people laugh.
- Are you confident? - Mexico.
No, it's not that I'm confident.
- As a viewer, I'd watch it. - I see. As a viewer.
- For me, it would be the worst driver. - Are you confident?
I am confident. I could do it.
"How much do I get paid?"
(So-mi is curious about the prize money.)
That would be funny.
(You don't get money, but you do get a prize.)
Why do you think people in your country like audition programs?
In India, we are curious about other people's lives.
- We'd like to know what they are doing. - A busybody.
We do like reality shows, but we also like dramas, right?
So, we mix the two genres together.
- For example, for a singing show... - There's a story, right?
Before the singer comes out, they show the poor mother.
They show how harsh the mother's life is.
Then, they show us the singer.
The whole nation watches the singer...
perform with teary eyes, and think "She has gone through so much."
It's a simple emotion, but I feel like...
I am climbing up the ladder of success along with the singer.
If the singer I like gets eliminated,
then I feel bad as well, because I couldn't protect the singer.
Audition show producers love it when people make comments like that.
- Yes, I... - You were picked by everyone in the country.
It was called "national producer".
My mother told me not to vote...
but I took my mother's cell phone and voted with her phone.
- You get charged a few cents. - Yes, you do.
Yes, that's the feeling I have when I watch the show.
When they become a celebrity, you feel different.
You feel like you're watching your baby.
Is that the feeling you have?
- What makes this such a great idea is, - I understand him.
Making everyone the producer of this idol group was such a great idea.
Voting for the girls, everyone feels strong attachment to the group.
- They really did make our group. - Right.
See? That's what they say.
- We were selected by votes. - By the viewers' votes.
Exactly. When the viewers watch you,
they must feel really proud.
- "I picked them and they're doing well." - Right.
It's strange because when you greet someone they say, "I voted for you."
"I made what you are now." And then you thank them for their vote.
It's a very strange feeling.
You always have to keep that it mind. You shouldn't say, "So what?"
"So what?"
(Laughing)
"You're not the only one who voted for them."
"That was a very long time ago."
(Examples of bad replies)
The reason why people in the US like this is because we are a democracy.
If you have the skills then you will be given an opportunity to succeed.
Isn't the quintessential example of this, Paul Potts?
When he came out, the judges weren't impressed by him at all.
He was shaking so hard. But when he started to sing...
(Paul Potts was a cell phone salesman before he came on "Britain's Got Talent".)
What are you here for today, Paul?
To sing opera.
(Unenthusiastic)
(Even through all the difficulties, he still dreamed of becoming an opera singer.)
(He won the audition competition and became a symbol of hope throughout the world.)
- When I saw that... - It was like a drama.
I got this very warm feeling when I watched him.
It was one of the reasons why it was fun to watch.
That's why I like audition programs.
I don't really like watching survival programs.
Because in the US versions, they only show the participants in a negative way.
There was a show called, "Big Brother".
The contestants live in the same house.
They live in a dormitory.
- However, - They only show the negative sides of this.
If you want to win, you have to betray someone.
Or they have to appeal in a seductive way. They show some very ridiculous things.
This person has to continue on with her life after the show ends, right?
But the contestant's image has been irrevocably ruined.
So, I feel like programs like this a different genre.
There is an aspect of reality shows that I don't like.
- What? - Especially when it comes to singing shows,
I don't like how they embarrass the contestants.
Because when I was in university, a friend I knew,
went on a show called, "The X Factor".
My friend told me...
that he had been edited to be seen in a negative way.
They changed his voice.
That's not editing in a negative way,
- that's fraud. - Are you sure the producer wasn't a demon?
I don't like that aspect of reality programs.
Now, let's take a look at some famous stars...
that started off from audition programs.
Back in 2007, Carly Rae Jepsen from Canada...
I really like her.
- went on a survival audition program. She came third. - I really like her.
She released an album back then, but it wasn't successful.
Five years later, she came out with the song, "Call Me Maybe".
- Wasn't this a Scooter Braun produced song? - Could you sing me the song?
He's better than Justin Bieber.
The song is actually connected to Justin Bieber.
- Because... - They have the same manager.
the song didn't become popular straight away like, "Up&Down" by EXID.
- It became popular later on. - "Up&Down".
This is Canada's "Up&Down".
Justin Bieber had heard the song by chance,
and he thought, "This is a good song." And he posted it on his social media site.
After he did that, the song became more popular.
(Justin Bieber made a homemade video with "Call Me Maybe" as the background music.)
If you go on YouTube, you'll see that it has almost a billion views.
A lot of people have seen the music video.
Also, Tom Hanks...
asked first if he could be on Carly Rae Jepsen's music video.
Tom Hanks asked first.
It's a very funny music video because she is an idol,
and Tom Hanks dances and sings along with them.
In Italy, we have a very famous singer, right now.
Her name is Suor Cristina.
She was the 2013 winner of "The Voice of Italy".
She is a nun.
She's a nun.
- Really? - A sister.
What did she sing?
- The funny thing is even though she is a nun, - Did she sing a hymn?
She sang "Like A Virgin" by Madonna.
Of all the songs, it had to be "Like A Virgin".
Did she sing other songs like, "Take A Bow"?
She sang, "Girl Just Wanna Have Fun".
- She sang that. - Cyndi Lauper's song.
I see. Cyndi Lauper.
(She sings with a nun's habit on so it's like a modern day version of "Sister Act".)
The other nuns also came out...
and cheered for her.
- Also... - "Sister Act".
Not only was she popular in Italy, but in 2013 on YouTube,
she had the fourth most viewed video.
She's signed with Universal Music Group.
(One of the top three labels in the world.)
She released an album in Japan and France.
- Really? - That's amazing.
- She must be a really good singer. - She is really good.
You all know, Leslie Cheung, right?
- Yes. - Leslie Cheung in 1977 also...
made his debut after he came second...
in the "Asian Music Contest" that was held in Hong Kong.
(He was a 22-year-old audition participant.)
Jay Chou also made his debut in 1999...
in a show called, "Super New Talent King".
It was a program that turned an ordinary person into a singer.
He came second on the show.
And now, he is a famous singer.
Our biggest star is,
Trump. It's Donald Trump.
- Did you say Trump? - Yes.
Was he on an audition program?
Among all the stars that had been on audition shows,
he is the most successful. He has become the President.
This doesn't sound like it's going to be fun.
But from 2004,
- he has been on the show, "The Apprentice". - The election.
He became the most successful after the election.
He made the survival show called, "The Apprentice".
The interview candidates come on...
and he always says the phrase, "You're fired", when they get eliminated.
His battles with Hillary Clinton...
was similar to a survival program.
It was kind of like another survival program.
This person didn't become a top star after going on an audition show,
but after a fan uploaded a single photo of this person,
this former audition contestant became a top star. Her name is Kanna Hashimoto.
A fan took a photo of her on stage.
But she looked so pretty that people called her an angel.
The fan posted it on their social media site.
She became very popular because of this photo.
- Who is she? - Kanna?
- Let's take a look. - I remember.
This is the photo.
Her fans say she's an idol that they might not see for another 1,000 years.
So, she has become the nation's idol.
- Normally we'd say once in a 100 years or so. - Exactly,
- they're exaggerating. - They might go further and mention Cro-Magnon era.
(If they had exaggerated more, they could have gone as far as Cro-Magnon era.)
It's not always participants who come in first place that become famous, right?
Could you tell us about someone like that?
We have a term for a person like that.
It means, a person who comes in first place...
won't become as successful as a person who comes in second or third place.
In Japan, we have a similar saying where the second place person...
will go further than the person in first place.
- So-mi won't like that. - She came first.
Are you still in touch with Se-jeong?
At the start, we were very close and had a good relationship.
But because they kept separating us and making us compete.
We were close,
- but it still to feel awkward to be around her. - Really?
After the final results came out,
Se-jeong came up to me and we talked.
"I feel a little sad because we used to be so close."
"The show put a wall between us."
"And it feels like we went further apart so it is disappointing."
Right now, we are the best of friends.
As I watched the show, I did feel like they overdid that.
Even as a viewer watching...
- Right. - They were trying to create a narrative.
- Exactly. - Right.
All the audition programs have a different way of giving the prize money, right?
Yes. They all do it differently.
We'll take a vote on that.
Some shows only give prize money to the first place winner,
while some other shows give prize money up to fifth place. For example,
on some shows, they give the first place winner money and a car.
The second place winner gets glory.
- Glory. - Right.
The first place winner normally gets a hatchback car.
Is this how it should be?
Or do you think we should divide up the rewards?
We'll have a vote.
Raise your hand if you think first place should get everything?
In 1, 2 and 3.
(Raising quickly)
(Did she raise it because she came in first place?)
- Just because you came in first place. - I didn't receive anything.
I didn't receive anything.
It's funnier that Jieqiong didn't raise her hand.
(She came in 6th place.)
- "Give me some of the prize money." - No, that's not it.
I think they should give prizes up to third place.
Up to third place?
- I think fifth place is... - She's negotiating.
Oogi, Lucky and Alex have raised their hands.
I understand that it is more fun if first place is the only one that wins.
- Yes, it is. - It's fun.
But if you look at things from the eliminated participants,
it could be in a way, a salve for their pain.
But think about the winner's feelings.
- "I won, so why do I have to share this? - But the winner...
What about the winner's feeling?
The winner is going to be receiving money anyway, right?
Let's say we gave money up to third place.
Then how would the fourth place winner feel?
- That's true. - But they contributed to the show.
Jieqiong, you said up to third place, right?
- Yes. - How would you do it?
I think the criteria is right there,
in the Olympics they only award medals up to third place, right?
I think that has a symbolic meaning.
Also, the fourth and fifth place needs to feel disappointed,
in order for the viewers to become more invested in the show.
In China, even now,
all the focus is given to the winner.
For second and third place, we just feel like they would be disappointed.
That's why I think...
you need participants to have that competitive drive to want to come in first place.
- And with that drive, they'll do a better job competing. - It's fun, too.
Aren't we thinking of the participants...
as merchandise right now?
- Oogi is very warm-hearted. - If you do that, than everyone should get something.
Just give a prize to everyone.
Just don't hold an audition.
There is a part of us that doesn't want everyone to win.
If you come in second or third place,
you can become successful later, right?
He became famous, right?
The second and third place...
can use that fame to get a record deal and become successful.
I'm saying they should get a prize as well.
It wouldn't matter if they won a prize on top of that as well, right?
- I mean... - I'm saying there's no need for that.
In a survival program,
it wasn't made for the participants,
- it was made for the viewers. - That's right.
Also, if you start giving out prizes...
than the people watching won't find it as fun.
So, the people won't watch.
And the program won't have as much money.
- So, he's saying this is for the viewers. - The program would disappear.
It won't be fun if they all win, right?
It wouldn't be a survival.
- Also the people... - I think it's right to only...
give the prize to the first place winner. Because the bigger the prize,
- the more journalists will write about it. - Articles.
- No, that's true. - It is true.
- That is true. - Imagine this, it's the finals...
and the winner gets a 1 million dollars while second place only gets honors.
- Right. - You need that kind of tension.
It'll make the viewers watch until the end. You need that.
- Right. - "I need to watch that."
I want to ask this,
You need to have the money as motivation.
For me, it's not about the prize money,
personally, I don't like a society that only acknowledges the first place winners.
- It's a TV show. - Wait.
Let me talk. Listen to me.
If you look at the top five contestants, there's the winner.
That person might have been good,
but some other contestants could do well on other days, too.
I think top five contestants should be rewarded for their effort.
All right. There have been many incidents.
We could see the competitions heated up on the show.
Are there any issues raised from these shows in your country?
In China, there's a contestant who appeared on many shows.
Her name is Xu Haixing﻿.
She always talked about her sad family stories.
So she received a large sympathy vote.
- She went on many audition shows? - Yes.
I see.
On one show, she said his grandfather is sick,
and her grandmother collapsed as well.
A few months later, she went on another show...
and said her father passed away.
She said her grandfather passed away a long time ago.
(My dad passed away three months ago.)
(I mustered up my courage to stand here today.)
(She made them cry.)
People pitied her and voted for her.
But later...
- Did she lie? - A part of what she said was a lie.
She must have caused a stir.
One of the most controversial shows in the States is called "The Biggest Loser".
- I know. - It's about losing weight.
So obese people appear on the show.
After the show ended, one of the contestants said...
the production team recommended them...
- to take drugs to lose weight. - They recommended?
- That's right. - The production team recommended?
That's right. It became...
- It became an issue. - In Germany,
a judge had caused controversy on a show.
Just like "American Idol",
there is a show called "Deutschland sucht den Superstar".
Dieter Bohlen was a judge on the show.
I heard he is very mean.
Right, he looks down on the contestants.
He'd made some harsh comments in the past. He said things like,
"It sounds like you're throwing up in the toilet."
He also said, "Your voice is so weak..."
"that the sound of pimple popping might be louder than your voice."
- Also... - What?
He's so annoying.
(Screaming)
He also said,
"People invented drugs..."
"to endure listening to your voice."
- Oh my. - There was this obese contestant, and he said,
"You were born in this world, thanks to God,"
"but you look like that because of McDonald's."
- Gosh. - But,
he had made worse comments than that in the past.
(I thought you were on drugs.)
(You're a garbage.)
(The angry contestant threw a glass of water in his face.)
There's this Canadian couple. They're stunt man and stunt woman.
They appeared on "America's Got Talent".
She was going to shoot a flaming arrow.
- A flaming arrow? - That's right.
The man was supposed to catch it...
- with his mouth. - Gosh.
(It's scary.)
But she missed her mark and shot him in the neck on live TV.
- Did he die? - She shot him in the neck.
They quickly turned the camera...
and aired advertisements a few seconds later.
- What happened to him? - We couldn't see what was going on,
but I heard he was all right.
My goodness. It could've been worse.
Speaking of an accident,
an accident occurred on a French TV show, too.
- The show was called "Koh-Lanta". - "Koh-Lanta"?
Yes. On the first day of shooting,
a 25-year-old man...
died from a heart attack.
- Right. - But after 10 days,
the doctor who was working for the show...
committed suicide due to criticisms he received.
He couldn't take it anymore.
The doctor who gave first-aid treatment?
If an accident like this happens,
can that show still be aired in Korea?
- Well... - The show will be canceled.
It's likely that the show will be canceled.
In France, that show was aired again after a year.
There's a show called "Voice of Mexico".
Mexicans said...
that "Voice of Mexico" was cursed.
Because various accidents...
kept happening to the contestants of each season.
During season one, a contestant was shot dead.
- Gosh. - Also, another contestant fell from fifth floor.
- Was the show cursed? - During season two,
a coach died in a plane crash.
The MC gave birth to her child, and her baby died.
- It's a spooky story. - It's not the end.
During season three, a contestant was kidnapped,
and he was found dead later.
My goodness.
During season four...
No one will participate in the competition.
(Tragic accidents of "Voice of Mexico")
Are the rest of them okay?
My goodness.
- Can't they cancel the show? - Gosh.
During season four, there were the twin sisters.
One of the sisters was killed in a car accident.
It's like survival.
They stopped the show at season four.
It literally is a survival show.
This wasn't aired on a show,
but there was a member of AKB48...
called Minegishi Minami.
Idol singers can't date, right?
They can't?
- They can't. - Is it in the contract?
I don't think it's in the contract,
but it's the unspoken rule.
- I see. - I heard that...
the members of AKB48 are not allowed to go on a date.
They're everyone's girlfriend.
Jieqiong, what will you do?
- What do you mean? - She's doing well.
Don't let them find out.
- She's doing well. - I'm not dating at the moment.
But people found out that she was dating.
People found out.
So she made an apology by shaving her head...
- and posting the video on YouTube. - I saw that.
She made an apology while crying.
- I saw it. - It's not like she committed a crime.
(As a first generation member of AKB48,)
(what I've done was very careless.)
What kind of picture was it?
She was getting out of a man's house, and someone took a picture.
But it's too harsh.
I think it's a bad culture that exists in Japan.
Even players in baseball teams...
- used to shave their heads. - And they bow down.
That's right.
It's insane. You wouldn't like it if that cultured existed in Korea.
I'd hate that.
- Really? - Can idol singers date freely in Korea?
Some agencies prohibit their singers to go on a date.
- It's three years. - They don't shave their heads.
It's three years for my agency.
How long has it been?
It's been a year.
It's kind of confusing...
because I'm a member of I.O.I at the moment.
So I'm curious when I go back to JYP...
- The time counts then? - Yes.
You should tell them.
- Tell them to include the period when you were in I.O.I. - Really?
- Of course. - How about you, Jieqiong?
I also heard that I'm not allowed to date for 3 or 4 years.
That's what I heard.
- Wow. - But is that really possible though?
(Oogi asks a direct question.)
That's a good question.
- Great. - Oogi.
But these days...
From what I heard, they all date if they want.
- You're sympathizing deeply. - I don't know what he's talking about.
(I don't know anything.)
She didn't say anything.
We live in the age of unbridled competition.
What is the field that has the fiercest competition in your country?
In Mexico...
Are you a cyborg?
- In Mexico... - He came first in a speech competition.
- Yes. - Strangely, beauty youtubers are...
really popular, and competition between them is really fierce.
That's because Latina women are really interested in makeup.
It's really popular among guys, too.
Guys watch the videos to see the beautiful girls.
- I see. - The parcel service market in Japan is highly competitive.
But Amazon joined in and started to provide a new service.
- What is it? - It's called "Obo-San bin".
It means Mr. Monk delivery.
- Monk? - Yes.
It's a service that they send a monk to your house.
- What? - They send a monk to your house.
- Gosh. - So they...
- send a monk. - Yes.
In Japan, people perform...
family rituals to honor the deceased.
If you go to a temple for the ritual, it's very expensive.
- It takes a long time, too. - That's right.
You don't know which monk you should ask,
but Amazon unified...
Can you see the profiles of monks?
It's so strange.
If you pay about 350 dollars, they will come to your house.
You can evaluate them later.
- Evaluate them? - Didn't religious leaders say anything?
The Buddhist circle was against it.
But the people who used that service were very satisfied.
- Wow. - Wow.
In the States, the real estate market is very competitive,
real estate agents to be exact.
The apartment prices are very expensive.
Also, there are so many real estate agents.
So the competition is really fierce.
A broadcasting company launched a new show about the real estate agents.
It's "Top Million Dollar Agent".
(It's a program where real estate agents compete against one another...)
(to win an expensive real estate contract.)
In India, the most competitive profession is perhaps civil servant.
So we have an occupation called Peon.
They make teas for the guests...
or organize the documents and books.
It's highly competitive as well.
In Chhattisgarh, they were going to hire 30 people,
but 75,000 people applied for the position.
- They were hiring 30 people? - Yes.
Also, the monthly salary is 200 to 300 dollars,
but still it's highly competitive.
That's because once you start working, you can work there for the lifetime.
- I see. - It's also very difficult to be a civil servant in China.
Really?
We call them "Iron bowls" in China.
Since there are so many people, the competition is really fierce.
But once you pass the exam, you don't have to worry about losing your job.
So iron bowl means it doesn't break.
- Right. - It's a bowl...
- that lasts a lifetime. - Yes.
(It's a metaphor for strong job security.)
Recently, it became legal for an individual to sell items in China.
So small business owners are struggling these days.
My friend bakes cakes, and if she makes too many,
she takes a photo and uploads it on her social media account to sell it.
What's funny was that...
my mother once made too many dumplings,
so she took a photo and sold them.
- In Korea? - For how much?
She sold them for 3 dollars and 50 cents.
I want to taste dumplings that Xinlin's mother made.
It must be the traditional dumplings.
- Yes. - What kind of dumplings are they?
- It's northern style dumplings. You add meat and cabbage... - It sounds so good.
- All he said was meat and cabbage. - That's right.
- What else do you put in there? - You mix it with meat.
- That's right. - That sounds very nice.
- Since there are so many convenience stores in Japan... - Go on, Dumpling Guy.
Dumpling Guy.
- What's in the dumpling? - Convenience stores sell dumplings, too.
Passion and greed?
- That sounds so nice. - I heard Japanese convenience stores are very nice.
- His name is Mark. - The market is really competitive.
- Lunch box? - Yes, it's really popular.
You can use a copying machine and pay your utility charges.
They sell magazines as well.
(They provide delivery service, too.)
They even have pharmacy and provide medical care service.
What surprised me was that they even had a karaoke.
- Goodness. - You can use karaoke, too.
There was a karaoke, right next to the convenience store.
If you want to go to a karaoke,
you can buy juice and snacks at the convenience store...
- and go to the karaoke. You can pay at the convenience store. - It's amazing.
They even provide that service.
- That's awesome. - It's the country of convenience stores.
Have you heard of "Michelin Guide"?
- I know. - They introduce nice restaurants.
("Michelin Guide" is a guide book published by a French Tyre company.)
(The book evaluates restaurants and awards Michelin stars.)
(The rating is decided by the number of stars they award.)
There was an incident related to "Michelin Guide".
In 2003, a chef called Bernard Loiseau...
- was running a three-star restaurant. - It's the best rating.
He managed the restaurant.
He committed suicide thinking his restaurant might lose...
its three-star status.
I guess he was really stressed out.
- He was worried? - That was before his restaurant was evaluated.
It wasn't because his restaurant lost its three-star status.
- The amount of stress was overwhelming for him. - Really?
- He was really worried. - Ironically, people trusted...
"Michelin Guide" even more because of that incident.
- After the incident? - Yes.
After the incident...
How do they evaluate restaurants?
Actually, the inspectors...
- They hide their identity. - anonymously go to different restaurants.
They travel 30,000km a year at least...
and have 250 meals at different restaurants.
They pay for the meal with their own money.
- The inspectors... - If you think the chef seems to know who you are,
you have to write about that in the report.
You let them know that your identity was revealed.
- Do you have to write about that? - Yes.
Have you ever been to Michelin rated restaurants?
I've only watched it in the movies.
They had their own criteria.
(Oops)
So what happened? You can speak casually.
An inspector dropped his fork.
Then he inspected how the waiter picked it up...
and how he provided appropriate service. He checked things like that.
- I'm really interested. I want to go there one day. - Me, too.
Recently, "Michelin Guide" was published in Korea as well.
A chef even committed suicide because of the rating.
There's a controversy whether its rating is trustworthy.
Let's find out how our representatives think about this.
Do you trust the ratings of "Michelin Guide"?
If you trust their ratings, please raise your hand. In 1, 2, 3.
Do you trust the ratings of "Michelin Guide"?
If you trust their ratings, please raise your hand. In 1, 2, 3.
Raise your hand if you trust their ratings.
All right. Italy doesn't trust them.
There are several reasons.
First of all, it's a business.
Since it's a business, they'll try to make profit.
It's... Wait.
If a restaurant earns Michelin Stars,
- their business will grow dramatically. - Right.
You said it's a business,
- but Michelin is not making any profit from it. - By the way...
Let me speak. Second of all, the guide book was made in France.
So the criteria are often biased towards the European standards.
Why do Western people try to evaluate us?
- It's... - Let's hear what Aurélien has to say.
- Don't judge us. - It's a misunderstanding.
My goodness.
- In China... - I'm not finished.
- He's not finished. - The third reason is that...
they introduced so many German restaurants last year.
It doesn't make any sense.
(Why are you talking to me?)
- My goodness. - If I may add,
"Michelin Guide" is like a blind man touching an elephant.
I haven't heard that saying for a long time.
It's been 15 years since I last heard it.
There are so many Indian restaurants in India,
and not a single restaurant was introduced in "Michelin Guide".
They awarded Michelin Stars to an Indian restaurant in England.
All the restaurants that have Michelin Stars in Shanghai...
specialize in Southern cuisine.
- Does that mean Northern cuisine isn't delicious? - Exactly.
Your country is big.
- Isn't it delicious? - It's really funny.
- Listen. - Have you ever tasted dumplings that my mom made?
Do you want me to throw dumplings at you?
That's the question I want to ask.
Okay, I will answer to his question.
Actually, the inspectors who are working in China are Chinese.
- But still... - That's why...
When they inspect a restaurant and give ratings, other inspectors will...
also rate the restaurant over the course of six months.
- Right. - But it's published by a French company.
So the criteria are based on the French standards.
- But... - But all of us have the same standards for taste.
No.
A lot of Japanese restaurants were introduced in "Michelin Guide". I'm thankful.
Oogi expressed his gratitude towards "Michelin Guide".
You're all talking about the taste.
To get a three-star status, the atmosphere of the restaurant...
- Right. - and the presentation of food are also important.
The service is important, too.
There are so many amazing restaurants in Italy,
but it's hard to find three-star restaurants.
I also admit that there aren't many good German restaurants.
But many have earned Michelin Stars.
That's because they were able to meet...
the French standards.
A lot of people in New York trust "Michelin Guide".
Many chefs try their best...
to earn Michelin Stars.
I don't know much about Asia, but the inspectors are doing a good job in New York.
I'm not saying Michelin starred restaurants are bad.
It's a guide book, right?
People have to think it's a guide book,
but the problem is that...
they're trying to establish their own standards.
"Michelin Guide" is not a guide book. They're making their own standards instead.
- He's jealous. - He's not jealous.
Alberto said they provide their own standards, instead of providing a guide.
People might think, "How about sundaeguk and sikhye we like?"
- Right. - "Don't these dishes meet their standards?"
It's perfectly fine if you see it as a guide book for gourmets.
That's right.
I hate "Michelin Guide".
There is this restaurant in Macau that I've been going for nine years.
- It's a steak house. - You're a steak expert.
I've been going there for seven years,
and that place never had many customers.
They earned a Michelin Star all of a sudden.
Chinese people trust their ratings.
- Yes, unfortunately. - To go there,
I have to make a reservation four days prior to my visit.
I wasn't able to go there since they received a Michelin Star.
It's a personal reason.
So I don't like "Michelin Guide".
What's the most competitive survival experience you've had?
It was when I got hired at an investment bank in Wall Street.
To get a job there, you have to get into an MBA program.
After that, you need to have an interview.
But not everyone has the chance.
You need to get an opportunity for the interview.
People from the banks come to your university and hold parties several times.
It's not an actual party though.
It's like a cocktail party, but they're actually evaluating you.
If you pass, you're invited again.
They might not invite you for the third party.
So they invited you again and again. After all the evaluations,
they give you an opportunity to have an interview.
Not all interviewees can get the job.
You can pass or fail the interview.
If you want to get a full-time position,
- So they keep testing you. - you have to go through so many things.
Did you not cry?
No, I was fine.
- Do you still have the sad memory from the interview? - A little bit.
Yes, I still remember the tough moments.
- But you passed and survived. - Yes.
I have an embarrassing experience.
- Embarrassing experience? - It's embarrassing.
- Okay. - You know the show called "Fantastic Duo", which airs on SBS.
- You went on the show? - I had an audition but failed.
Which episode was it?
I sang Taeyang's "Eyes, Nose, Lips".
- Taeyang? - Yes.
- You should've passed. - It was really hard.
- Can you sing a few bars? - I'm not very good at singing.
(His mother is a singer.)
Cue.
Your eyes
- I told you I can't sing very well. - Okay, you failed.
Get out!
- Get out! - How did you apply for the audition?
- Do you think our show is a joke? - So...
- I'm having a heart attack. - Well...
- I can't sing when I get nervous. - You're fired.
- Try to sing in a lower key. - My voice doesn't come out.
- Even if you can't sing, you should've done your best. - Yes.
- He should've done his best. - I can't sing very well, either.
I learned an important lesson.
If you're not confident, you shouldn't go for it.
- Don't go for it. - That's what you learned.
In 2001...
That's 15 years ago.
- I was very young back then. - I was born in 2001.
- She was born in 2001. - Yes, I was born in 2001.
(Wow!)
- You're like her father's friend. - Yes.
In 2001, I went on the show called "Foreigners' Singing Contest"...
- and came first. - Really?
- You came first? - I had friends from the States and Canada.
Back then, g.o.d was really popular.
So we formed a parody group.
When you read it backwards, it becomes "Dog".
- Dog. - What did you sing?
- We sang "Friday Night" and came first in the contest. - It's a great song.
- Do you know the song "Dear Mother"? - Yes.
We changed the lyrics a little bit and sang.
- It was hilarious. - Can you sing a little?
- The lyrics go... - We were poor since I was young
My house was in Gangnam since I was young
- No wonder he came first. - Great.
It's great.
"My mother said she likes Jeongabok."
"My mother ate jajangmyeon and rice."
I have to meet them and write the lyrics again.
One day,
I read a comment written under the article about me.
It said, "Xinlin is a cancer that doesn't love his country."
- What? Was that comment from a Chinese? - That's right.
They verbally attacked me.
I was heartbroken.
But I couldn't keep thinking like that.
Because there are so many Chinese living in Korea.
So many people can replace me at any moment.
That's what I thought.
That thought motivated me to do better.
As for me, the competition is fierce and endless.
All right. Xinlin has been trying his best on the show.
- From next week... - We have a new Chinese representative.
- Good job. - Jieqiong, welcome to our show.
- Yes! - Welcome!
We have a new representative today.
We're just kidding. You're doing really well.
I can understand him.
You're doing well.
It was Zhou Jieqiong's issue for the 126th Non Summit Meeting.
"I want to be on another audition show. Am I abnormal?" That was today's issue.
You want to be on another audition show because you could've done better.
- Right, she can do better. - You can perform here and forget about your worry.
That's a great idea.
You can perform here and forget about your worry.
That's a great idea.
Why are your ears red?
I'm really excited.
He's excited.
So-mi and I...
- We will sing "Very Very Very" together. - Oogi, you should dance with them.
- Dance with them. - Come on.
Dance with them.
Very very very much
- Very very very much - He's good!
Tell me when you like me
Very very very much
(It was better than they expected.)
Great.
- Oogi really stood out. - Good job.
How did you feel today?
It was good to see you talk...
- and have a debate over certain issues. - You could feel the tension.
Learning about the culture of different countries was really interesting.
- It was great. Thank you. - Okay.
How about you, Jieqiong?
- I was sitting here, but it felt like I was watching TV. - I know.
I was able to learn new knowledge...
that I wasn't aware of. I'm really thankful.
Also, I'd like to thank you for having me as a Chinese representative.
If I have a chance later, I'd love to take his place.
(Laughing)
We'll adjourn Non Summit Meeting.
(Bob Dylan refused to receive his Nobel prize.)
(Only the attendee should receive the prize.)
(It doesn't matter.)
(A singer shouldn't receive the Nobel prize for literature.)
(A singer is a poet.)
(Is music a part of literature?)
(They talk about the controversial Nobel prize.)
(Games,)
(cartoons,)
(and even satellite navigation)
(The voice of Korea, Seo Yu-ri)
(She says everything she wants.)
(Don't do it. It's dangerous.)
(You need to tone it down.)
(The representatives speak their minds with Seo Yu-ri.)
(You can speak ill of politicians, and it's fine.)
(They don't say it because of retaliatory killings.)
(Excessive faith versus freedom of expression)
(Miyazaki Hayao...)
(Hayao)
(The representatives speak their minds.)
(Actually, I...)
(Xinlin makes a shocking confession.)
(Let's be open-minded on Monday nights.)
(Non Summit Meeting)
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